It had been my personal brother’s consider select the motion picture at Blockbuster and she’d selected

A Go to Remember

. “Sorry. This is certainly a woman film,” my mommy warned. When we got residence and watched it as a household, i did not show my personal rips. Or my desire. I did not acknowledge that I adored the film and, more importantly, liked top honors. The entire year was 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this movie and Avril Lavigne launching her debut record album, I would discovered both types of celebrity crushes that would haunt with the rest of my personal youth.

Celebrity crushes indicate more to queer individuals than they actually do to straight folks. They could be all of our basic expressions of queer desire or the first expressions of gender jealousy. They may be a safe place to check out cravings that are not prepared when it comes to real-world.

For this reason recently we’re speaking with publisher and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola all about celeb crushes. We talk about exactly how celeb thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual person. We mention how I believe almost all of my personal celeb crushes tend to be form of attainable. And, obviously, we explore the well-known older women on Christina’s water bottle.

But initially! Christina quizzes myself on a topic i understand little about — lesbian romance books


SHOW RECORDS

+ The real romance books referenced in our game happened to be:

The X Element

,

Splitting Character

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Facts

.

+ My personal reference for two enthusiasts discussing a wall:


+ Christina’s research for 2 lovers sharing a wall:


+ listed below are all of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

A Straightforward Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Problem Girls

Experiencing Observed

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If at all like me, you have got not a clue exactly who Lindsay Shookus is,
here’s a timeline
of the woman union with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very courageous of myself, because I do not bear in mind every little thing we composed on my Tumblr, but listed here is a hyperlink to
my personal Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Stone address
.

+ an indication to look at

P-Valley

and review
Natalie’s insurance coverage
.



EPISODE


Jordan:

Practically everytime Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped upon screen, every single time I just moved, “Oh, God.”


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, Jesus,” like every fucking time.

[theme song plays]


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.


Drew:

And thank you for visiting Wait, So Is This A Romantic Date?.


Christina:

You realize, Wait, So is this a night out together? is an Autostraddle podcast where I continuously forget whom claims just what, it doesn’t matter what long we have taped. Uh, i believe that’s in fact really beautiful. And my headphones just dropped next to my personal head. Therefore.


Drew:

So a powerful s—, strong begin.


Christina:

A strong begin. But largely, it really is a podcast about matchmaking and, like, learning just what relationship is if in case we know how-to take action, similar to we decide if I can hold my earphones back at my damn mind.


Drew:

Which is fantastic. Um, my name is Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I’m, uh… Or will you… But do you wish us to stay thereon longer? I am getting seems.


Christina:

No, I Am just dwelling…


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

…on my self.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

It’s best should you decide chat, i believe. (laughs)


Drew:

Appropriate. Um, uh, i’m Drew Gregory. Im a filmmaker and an author for Autostraddle. I’m a queer trans girl as well. Those tend to be identification tags that i’ve. Christina?


Christina:

Yes, positively. I’m Christina Tucker. Im additionally a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month I actually just been like a woman about community. I Have really and truly just already been like—


Drew:

Mm.


Christina:

—woman at large, mostly in various—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—beaches, uh, in the Jersey Shore.


Drew:

You probably have.


Christina:

But nevertheless feeling extremely at-large and whimsical such that now we certainly think exhausted by.


Drew:

Certain.


Christina:

I am Black and homosexual, hence stones for my situation.


Drew:

I like that. (laughs)


Christina:

Cool. I am not sure precisely why I’m so unusual now. We, like, have no idea which I am. What’s going on?


Drew:

It really is okay. We’re going to keep goin’.


Christina:

What I do have, though, Drew, is a casino game.


Drew:

Mm-hmm. Give Thanks To God.


Christina:

And That online game Im testing your knowledge of some thing I know you don’t have a lot of understanding of, basically—


Drew:

Oh God.


Christina:

–fun. Um, its a… it really is labeled as… I really don’t have a reputation because of it. I maybe should’ve looked at a name. But fundamentally, I Will supply three lesbian love titles, and you’re going—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—to have to let me know exactly what are the genuine people on the three.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Two You will find developed, a person is real. And you’re going to must select the genuine one and let me know how you feel it’s about.


Drew:

Great. Okay.


Christina:

Do you want?


Drew:

I am. Just what outstanding online game.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

Here we get. The first three.

The X Element

,

The It Element

, and

The Truth folks

.


Drew:

Huh. It’s amusing, ’cause you might believe that

The X Element

would actually end up being

The X Factor

alongside

The It Factor

, but—


Christina:

Sure.


Drew:

We want to state… i recently… Oh, I’m hoping I am not unintentionally insulting you, but I believe like

The X Element

could be the clunkiest, and so you wouldn’t have come with that. It has to be actual.


Christina:

You are appropriate. (laughs)


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow, I’m so happy.


Christina:

Precisely what do you would imagine

The X Element

is mostly about?


Drew:

Um, i do believe really about two lesbians who will be exes and end on the same truth cooking show that’s type of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Fantastic British Baking Program

. Like, it goes on for some time nonetheless it has actually sort of the sun and rain of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes also it… It really is kind of like a… I am not sure whether or not it would depend as an enemies to fans since they happened to be enthusiasts at one point, but it’s like an exes to back together.


Christina:

Everyone loves that. In addition love that by asking to tell me personally what you believe these books go for about, i have only produced you make romance plots.


Drew:

I enjoy it.


Christina:

That is truly fun. Uh, unfortuitously

The X Ingredient

is obviously, uh, about an associate which sleeps along with her manager. As soon as we began reading it a week ago in the beach, I mentioned, “this really is absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic that has had converted into a real publication.” As soon as I show we see the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I pretty sure have actually. So’s a journey.


Drew:

Wait, but exactly why is it called

The X Ingredient

?


Christina:

Really, from inside the initial fanfic, the X component had been… there is some form of reason that Miranda had every one of her assistants, uh, eat the girl out to climax. Um.


Drew:

Wow.


Christina:

Cannot actually remember what the, the storyline, the backstory ,was on that, um, but in this new one, within genuine circulated version i will say, uh, the X ingredient i assume is, I don’t know, simply, like, that the woman associate’s hot and she’s want, “Oh, i will be homosexual today and I wanna have sexual intercourse together with her.” Like, I’m not sure. The X component will be hot.


Drew:

Good enough for my situation. Okay.


Christina:

There you choose to go.


Drew:

Round two.


Christina:

Round two.

Cracked Hearts Club

…


Drew:

Uh-huh.


Christina:

…

Breaking Personality

,

Going for Broke

.


Drew:

Ooh, all those sound like they may be genuine. I must say I want it to be

Breaking Character

, but I think

Cracked Hearts Club

is actually genuine.


Christina:

Unfortuitously,

Broken Hearts Club

just isn’t real. And fortunate for you,

Breaking Character

is actually actual.


Drew:

Oh my personal Jesus, i will’ve only eliminated using my impulse.


Christina:

Choose the instinct, babe.


Drew:


Splitting Character

. Okay, its about a kind of like the female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female actor who takes her strategy performing extremely really, and she develops a connection together with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it is uncertain for both the woman co-star and also for the star in the event that co-star is actually really love with her or perhaps in really love with her character. And hijinks ensue.


Christina:

Truly, that is not remote from genuine plot of

Breaking Character

, that will be indeed about two performers, one that is actually, uh, already been labeled as a bitch it is in no way, but is simply becoming, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she is on like a

Gray’s Anatomy

sort healthcare tv show—


Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.


Christina:

—that has really eliminated from the rails. Her personality’s the bitch.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

And, uh, her brand new co-star summertime — that is right, her name’s summertime — is very pleasant and wonderful. And because very bonkers plot explanations, they have to have a fake relationship. However They’re both homosexual so…


Drew:

So absolutely nothing happens. They don’t develop any feelings.


Christina:

Yeah, so that they don’t… Yeah, absolutely nothing.


Drew:

They never ever connect. No.


Christina:

Absolutely nothing occurs. They never explore it and additionally they have never sex.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

Yep, that’s just what takes place.


Drew:

Occasionally that’s how it goes.


Christina:

Okay, your upcoming three.

Resort Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.


Drew:

Okay, I Am gonna follow my personal impulse and opt for one that I want to end up being real—


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

—and hope that that’s real.

Resort Queens

.


Christina:


Hotel Queens

is actual.


Drew:

Wow, I Am eliminating it. (laughs)


Christina:

You’re eliminating this. For a person who will not study a huge amount of lesbian love, uh, it’s in your bloodstream, hottie.


Drew:

Okay, i will now state the land that I’m hoping it really is, though I’m sure considering my personal comprehension of posting business this is not the outcome. But i’d like it to be about two contestants on a show comparable to, similar,

Drag Race

’cause you aren’t really likely to, like, be in one another’s spaces but, you know, they stay static in a hotel in the entire recording of the show. So that they establish, like, a sort of remarkable affair that for some time can not be consummated, but their areas tend to be alongside both so they really, like, knock-on the wall around them and when they’re shooting, there is similar to most of the stress and it’s really… And yeah, that’s, that is what I want

Hotel Queens

is pertaining to.

Example: https://adult-friened-finder.com/


Christina:

That appears quite hot. Um, that is not exactly what

Hotel Queens

is all about. It’s just about a lady exactly who runs places and, uh, an other woman exactly who operates a competing lodge.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

Exactly Who works well with a contending resort string and they, uh—


Drew:

Sure, sure, yes.


Christina:

—quite virtually are resort queens.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

But i enjoy that energy. I favor the knocking on the… really, uh,

bump 3 x on ceiling if you like myself

fuel, which I fancy.


Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Sunny Superstar

, and I also love every, I love the various social things, you are sure that.


Christina:

I love our brains.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

I do believe brains are incredibly beautiful.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

Fine,

Paid in Paradise

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noises fun. I’m going with

Payback’s a Witch

.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it is fun ’cause it’s a proper publication.


Drew:

Cool.


Christina:

Tell me what you believe

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about.


Drew:

Okay, I Managed To Get it.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

So a young gay witch is actually battling which will make book in early months associated with the pandemic.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Together with property manager is like, “No, you must nonetheless offer cash.” And she is want, “But appear, like, all these… you realize, like, you simply can’t evict me,” and all of these various things and like, “you will want to provide me some slack,” and “its a pandemic.” Therefore the landlord’s love, “No, i am a landlord. I detest you.”

And so then she actually is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” and thus subsequently she begins tormenting the property manager. Love story is not making use of property manager, perhaps not an enemies-to-lovers circumstance because—


Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be bad. Sure. (laughs)


Drew:

But actually she discovers that her neighbor is a witch as well as a lesbian, so they really torment the property owner collectively and fall in love as you go along. It type of features like a Roald Dahl power, like

The Twits

. Or

Splendid Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not actually, like… there is not most conflict the moment the original conflict takes place. Like, the two of them just are like, “we are both witches. We’re going to torment this individual who deserves to be tormented.” Immediately after which obtained gender.


Christina:

That is actually really attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

concerns, as an alternative, a woman that is, you guessed it, a witch which returns to the woman home town in which it’s the just destination that she will carry out magic—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—because absolutely like a miraculous lake. She has already been without abilities.


Drew:

Fun. Ooh.


Christina:

Um, and she meets a, a lady she had a crush on in senior high school. Uh, there’s like a complete lengthy, like, mystery world-building thing together with the city and the households that run town. They gather. It’s very sweet. Fun publication,

Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Seriously, associated with ones yet, that is the one I would personally many want to study.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is extremely enjoyable. Uh, there was a sequel compared to that publication, but it’s unfortuitously about straight men and women. Very.


Drew:

Weird.


Christina:

You victory some, you shed some. Okay, here’s our very own final any.

Honesty and Second Chances

,

When Reality Matches Fiction

—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—or

The Brutal Reality

.


Drew:

Ooh. I’m gonna pick

When Reality Suits Fiction

.


Christina:

Mm, which unfortunately from my personal brain alone. Uh,

The Brutal Facts

, however…


Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Truth

and

Whenever Facts Touches Fiction

, In My Opinion both are a comparable thing which is—


Christina:

Yeah, they would be.


Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Program

as well as Bradley Jackson along with her truth-telling. But I imagine when it was actually posted, for copyright explanations they did have to change some particulars. So her name’s maybe not Bradley Jackson anymore, but it is likewise plotted.


Christina:

And That’s a shame because Bradley Jackson is leading on the list of greatest character labels ever placed to paper, um, despite how—


Drew:

Definitely.


Christina:

—ridiculous every little thing about this is. But congratulations on that Emmy nom, Reese.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

means a media mogul exactly who takes over a having difficulties report and comes in love with the criminal activity journalist, whom produces—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they have an extremely nice coming collectively. The mass media mogul is clearly extremely mean and like two decades older than she is. It is amazing things.


Drew:

Positive.


Christina:

And that I will, because I care much for our listeners, certainly feature backlinks to any or all of the genuine books when you look at the tv show records.


Drew:

Incredible.


Christina:

In addition to rest of them, they’re going to go-back into my head in which they belong. Also, creating titles of guides… Like I’m able to come up with plots for a romance books all day every day. Titles is, like, in fact shockingly challenging.


Drew:

Yeah, you did excellent.


Christina:

Thanks a lot. I simply needed that compliment.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

All of our extremely special visitor is one of my personal favorite individuals to thirst about superstars with. Very unique guest, why don’t you present yourself therefore we may into celeb crush talk?


Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It is a— And Drew. Hello. We, I’m Jordan Crucchiola. If in case you tune in to any of my personal podcasts, you’ve probably started using the Easy Podcast that I did with Christina. And also as I said whenever I signed on to this cam, the last time we had been on a pod collectively had been whenever we were choosing Blake vibrant.


Christina:

And, as I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—


Jordan:

Yeah.


Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis only in just a little Zoom part.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

There she is. She’s got plenty locks. What exactly is going on? She’s talkin’ to united states for way too long.


Jordan:

Go with Jesus, Blake. Thank you so much.


Christina:

It was untamed times. Untamed occasions.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

Do you wish to state a bit more about who you really are?


Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I wish to declare that i will be somebody who likes Drew Gregory’s the things I think about as conclusive

Euphoria

recaps.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow. Thank you.


Jordan:

There was certain one in which, um… because program helps make myself very very… Hunter Schafer is actually, uh, an angel from Jesus.


Christina:

Yeah.


Jordan:

Therefore the show tends to make myself exceptionally unpleasant in how the single brain trust creator, executor, producer, manager, author, gazes upon Hunter.


Christina:

Mm-hmm.


Drew:

Yeah.